Pickleball, Petty Cake & Participation Trophies | Kathleen w/ Home Court NC

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 🔹 A tournament so bad, they almost needed a pickled jar podium
 🔹 Passive-aggressive dish slamming as a form of family communication
 🔹 When your dinks get angry and your serves get sassy
 

Plus, Kathleen from Home Court NC joins us to talk about building better humans (who happen to play pickleball), why tacos > trophies, and how she turned a fitness philosophy into a fiercely welcoming pickleball brand.

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Yeah, no doubt. That's a lot of balls. That's a lot of balls. I mean, you're ball handler from way back.

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I like it.

I am so sore. The tournament last weekend. my gosh. I've been sore for three days. Yes, your first tournament.

I was gonna say, how are you gonna transition that? My first tournament. The Harker Heights Athletic Code.

Yes, and was your first tournament? Hey, tell us how you did

Speaker 2 (01:52.396)
was my first tournament. You don't expect to bring home a gold at your first tournament. But let me tell you, I was expecting not to bring home gold, so I didn't. I did. Paddle princess, we rocked it, number one. We slayed on the court because, I mean, we look good. I had my headband at times, at times I didn't. Definitely had my wristband. I had my glasses sometimes, sometimes I did.

ever.

Speaker 3 (02:05.006)
You did not. Not. did not. I don't. Who is your partner?

Speaker 3 (02:21.87)
You're a full old man, Geary.

your swim short.

I'd swim shorts on that's cuz it rained that day. You never know if rain coming back Sure, and a long sleeve shirt. That's right. Yeah, I look good. Okay. I slayed what we played eight games Yeah, gold silver bronze, right? We came in seventh Did we come in eighth? Yes. We won the last one though

What?

We came in eighth.

Speaker 4 (02:43.352)
We came in dead last. We did not win one single game. We did not. We got pickled that game.

won the last game

No, no, no, no, no, no. The last game, that was seventh. We got pickled on six and seven. We got a bye, so that's a win.

didn't win one game.

Speaker 3 (02:58.583)
I was like, I don't think they were like,

That's a win.

It's a win in our book, the only win that we had. It was rough.

Right, that's right. I expect the medals for that place, but you know, if that's the way they run their tournaments, guess that's the way they run their tournaments.

Participation trophy.

Speaker 3 (03:14.964)
I you, I told the last place that they need to have a pickled jar. So what it is is where if you get pickled, you put your name on it and then you put it in the jar. What's pickled? Yeah. So pickled means you got zero points and the other team got 11. So anybody at the tournament or whatever, whenever you're playing, if you get pickled, you put it in the jar. And then at the end, they choose first, second and third out of whoever got pickled and you get to stand on a podium and you get a jar of pickles.

Is that what that means?

Speaker 2 (03:43.352)
Hell yeah.

award.

I that. That's what I'm going to do.

because our names would have been put in there three times.

How fun would that have been and then you celebrate mediocrity. I'm all about celebrating mediocrity.

Speaker 2 (03:53.662)
I'm... Yeah, I'm the most mediocreist.

So, I think we need to normalize sucking.

Our podcast, hey listen, our podcast is all about mediocrity. If you're here and you're mediocre, we want to know about it. Let us know.

So it was a fun time. Towards the end, I got little agitated.

But first, let me call out something real quick. How about paddle princesses serves?

Speaker 3 (04:18.066)
my gosh, y'all skidding

Mine were good. We're talking about her now. Okay. I had some good stuff. Hers were so You said y'all. That's collective.

talking about her.

I was saying like y'all listen, listen up. I was saying that even someone there that listens to the podcast has said, hey, your service got better because I've seen you on Instagram.

She's talking to all of

Speaker 4 (04:41.186)
Yeah. So that's great to be known for being horrible.

It's fun. it. Yeah.

No, they were on fire once you dialed it in once you dropped and then served, you know

I stopped caring. I literally stopped caring. I went in there and that was my whole mentality going into it was I wasn't going to try to think about every single position that Chance had told me, know, this arm needs to be here, this arm needs to be here, you need to rock on your heels here, go on your toes here, step here. That was just way too much for my brain to think about every single time. And so I went in there and literally just started hitting the ball and taking my anger out on it. And then it was actually going over the net and going where it's supposed to

So listen up ladies and ladies if you want to stop caring come play with me

Speaker 3 (05:23.598)
What I learned is that I think as you start to get better, because I've definitely gotten better, I'm not good, but I've gotten better from where I was, that the expectation changes. So I always want to stay below like a 3.5, because I feel like once you get up to 3.5, everybody's tournaments turn into like just so much draw. And like we were on the upper courts because we were in the 2.5.

much rest.

Speaker 2 (05:51.82)
No, we're in the upper tier.

Yes. And so like all the threes, three fives, fours or whatever, they're all down there at the other courts. And when I walked down there, like, this is intense in here. You know? And I was like, I just, I don't know. And I feel like the expectation has changed for me. And so I started to get a little bit more angry about things not going the way I anticipated. that's going to stop. I'm playing for fun. And if that means I can't play in tournaments, then I will stop doing that.

covered and shaded.

Speaker 2 (06:24.204)
Yeah, we were, what did I say? We were there for a good time, not a long time. But it did seem like a fric-

was five hours. was five hours. Long time. We left at nine, got there five.

Was it five hours?

I should have taken a five hour energy. I would have seen. Like did I get 459 out of it or did I get the whole five?

Yeah, so I just feel like I'm here to have fun and I want it to continue to be fun, so I need to lower the expectation. What is it? It's like if you have low expectations, you can always meet them. Right. Yeah. So that's going to be me.

Speaker 2 (06:53.4)
Traditionally put the bar low. It's so easy to step over when it's low. I love it. Just like that dating from Saturday Night Live. Lowered expectation. Yeah. But I will say you had every right to be a little bit angry at the Yeah. Because you were competing for bronze. You played a team that, let's just say, kind of sandbagged a little bit in their way that they acted like they didn't know what was going on.

I'm gonna just say, my behavior is still my behavior. So regardless of who I played, what I played, how I played, I'm not even gonna go there. I'm just gonna say, I can do better.

Yeah, we wouldn't let our kids off the hook either. Your behavior is your behavior, but questionable at best line calls. mean, and it wasn't, the thing was it wasn't us that pointed it out first. It was other people that had played this couple.

that had called it out first and then you noticed it as well and then you guys compared notes as people do at Pickleball and everybody kind of knew that these people make questionable line calls and they're kind of sandbagging and playing like, what does that mean? I don't know and all that kind of stuff. And I'll just tell you, it's a small community. you know.

Yeah, I just don't want to care. I just want to go and have fun. Like when we do the scrambles and stuff like that, like no one's making questionable line calls. Like no one cares. Right. But I felt like really all 27 of my balls could not have been out. Right. And yes, I counted. Yeah. So I am playing petty cake over here, but that's a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:23.306)
Yeah, no doubt. That's a lot of balls. That's a lot of balls for you. I mean, you're ball handler from way back.

way back. So anyways, I learned my lesson. It's all about fun, regardless of who you're playing. Like they can just be who they are. If they don't want to smile, if they don't want to laugh, if they don't want to have a good time, then they're for us. And they did. And I was aggravated about how I let it get to me. And so it was a good, humbling, eye-opening experience to my own self-reflection.

can't let other

Speaker 2 (08:51.886)
Oh, look at that. Look at the self-reflection there. Well, I'm glad you've come full circle because it was not fun that night for me. can just tell. I seem like I couldn't do anything right the rest of the night.

I know I snapped it.

Speaker 2 (09:06.88)
That's alright, that's what I'm here for. fan mail, here's the mail, it never fails, makes me wanna wag-

we got some fan mail.

Speaker 3 (09:16.61)
My tale, mail time.

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Speaker 2 (10:01.15)
Just a tip quick pickleball wisdom in and out before you even know it Listen don't blindly run up to the kitchen behind third shots wait to judge the quality of a third shot drop before rushing into the net Behind it if your drop was too high stay back by the baseline and try again. I learned that the hard way This way you'll be able to defend your if your opponent slams your shot If you hit a good drop either it bounces or is being volleyed below the knees proceed forward

but stop when your opponent hits, even if you haven't made it all the way up yet.

Speaker 2 (10:40.231)
It's time for Pickle Pals!

Speaker 2 (10:45.87)
makes you want to dance. You ever meet someone and instantly think, I want them coaching my game and maybe even my life? That's Kathleen, AKA Coach Kat says, the sharp taco loving, we're going to talk about that fanny pack wearing coach behind home court, North Carolina. She built a community first coaching brand rooted in performance perspective and just enough sass to keep you accountable.

From chemistry major to fitness coach to pickleball mentor, she's got one of the most interesting backstories in the sport and she's helping players grow without gimmicks, fluff or pretending a high duper score fixes your life. Today we're talking mindset, movement, mom life and what happens when you mix fanny packs with forensics and drop them on a court in North Carolina. Kathleen, thanks so much for being on the Big Dink Energy podcast.

Thanks for having me, Guy. I think I need you to come along as my sidekick for any event that I do. And that intro was fantastic.

We'll pick some some walkout music for you for sure and then I'll just announce you wherever you go Maybe with a trumpet or something like that

I'm here for it. What's another few hours of time that you can give up?

Speaker 2 (11:47.372)
That's right. I've got so much of it free time. from chemistry to forensics to fitness to pickleball, what is the common thread of Kathleen that connects them all?

community, health, being with people, being engaged with them and having a good time.

Yeah, I think if people have never tried pickleball, that is one of the biggest things I think you find right away is a huge community and the outpouring of love, you know, and the connection you get right away. You would almost have to be some sort of weird introvert that hasn't been discovered yet to not get all of that when you get on a pickleball court.

Yeah, and we've actually had quite a few introverts come onto the court. And I wouldn't say that we've converted them into extroverts, but they definitely still enjoy their time on the court.

sure. Hey, when you get out there, it's hard to sit in a corner and read a book, you know? Yes.

Speaker 1 (12:35.576)
Yeah, you might get body bagged if you're doing that.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. So I, you know, I get it. There's so much in your background to get into. But one of the things that stuck out to me, because I'm doing a little, I'm one of my side projects, I'm doing a little kind of coding myself. It's more vibe coding than anything, but you taught yourself to code. So what else have you quietly mastered that maybe people don't even know?

Wow, that's a left field question I wasn't sort of expecting, yeah. Programming was primarily so I could work from home. We had just had our kid and I was like, I need a work from home job. The only option was programming. My background is in science, but I am not necessarily a nutrition coach by, guess by education. And so that's been something that I have over the past four and a half, five, six years cultivated. Building community, believe it or not, pickleball is not necessarily my...

my first sport that I actually play. I'm actually a recovering runner, if you will. And so learning pickleball and learning how to build that community, learning how to build that business has been something much like programming that is, was something that I was, let's go for it. But I sort of came up with some different paths and curves that we weren't quite expecting.

Yeah, I'm glad you say you're not a traditional, nutritionist kind of background or schooled in that because I think for so long the food pyramid has been, at least for people like us, we know it's upside down, you know? We've been taught in school though something different, so I'm glad to hear you say you're not, you know, formally educated in that because so many people get that thing wrong.

Speaker 1 (14:10.102)
Yeah, I should say I am certified, so I am able to help people, even though I'm not a registered dietician, but really I'm focusing on habits, right? How do we lay the foundation? Because you should be able to eat what you want to eat and enjoy what you want to enjoy, but without all of the rules and the nonsense and so focusing on those habits, which translates to other areas of the life as well.

Yeah, absolutely. in your bio, in your background, you have the Original Strength Institute. So how did that shift kind of your mindset around movement and then how does that carry into the way you coach now?

Yeah, absolutely. So I found Original Strength Institute back in 2019. I actually started there as a member. Danny Almeida and Tim Anderson are the owners. They have a movement philosophy called Original Strength. So that is the movement philosophy that we bring to the table. Essentially, through a series of movements, we're designing and or teaching our brain that it's safe to move.

as well as staying within our original design. We are meant to squat, we're meant to stand, we're meant to climb stairs, we're meant to reach, things like that. So, you know, growing up a female in the 90s, right, there's a few things that sort of stick out, right? If you lift too much weight, you're gonna get bulky like Arnie. If you eat too much, you're going to gain a ton of weight. The best way to stay fit is to run for hours and hours upon end. So one of the things that...

they helped me understand is that strength, community, those are the more important things. And from there, my nutrition, my love for nutrition, my love for cooking, continued to grow and develop and has me where I am today, which with the nutrition coaching as well as I'm actually their general manager as well.

Speaker 2 (15:47.842)
Wow, that's amazing. Yeah, and you're right. The development of the human, so to speak, even back in the old days, I guess, we weren't the fastest and we weren't the strongest, certainly, in the food chain, but we had endurance. And I think that's what people sometimes miss in all of that. And then, of course, what you put in as fuel for your supercar is equally just as important. And people say, abs are made in the kitchen, right? Yeah.

So your real goals as a coach, I think I know this, for our listeners, are you trying to build better players or better humans who happen to play?

I'm gonna go with the second one, better humans. Home court exists because we wanted a place for people to feel welcome and feel invited to play pickleball. It can be kind of intimidating going out there on the public outdoor courts. Yes, they're free, but it's intimidating. You gotta put your paddle out there. Sometimes people move it around. They get grumpy with you if you don't know how to play. And so what we've done is we've created a place for whether...

their new or experience or somewhere in between they can come and play and have fun. And so really it is around developing better people that enjoy playing the sport.

Yeah, we brought that up on one of our podcasts, the moving of paddles during paddle stacking. Yeah. And we didn't just, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (17:07.496)
We have heard some stories. Everywhere. There are some, I won't say it out loud because Fuqua is a small town, but there are some definite repeat offenders for sure. Not specific people, but particular areas.

Don't touch my paddle.

Speaker 2 (17:21.39)
of who you are out there. So you coach movement, nutrition and pickleball. What do you wish more people knew about how those three things are connected?

Yeah, so nutrition is the fuel that enables all of them. Strength is the tool that enables the structure, longevity, and solidness of it. And, you know, the pickleball itself, you know, it's the fun, it's the community, it's the movement, and all of that is community. I'm going to add like a fourth thing in there. Recovery, rest. Yes. Right? If you're not...

You're playing pickleball seven days a week for hours upon end. You're not getting enough sleep. You're over training in the gym. You're not eating enough. All four of those things are going to, something is going to give at some point. So making sure that you're getting that rest and recovery in as well.

Yeah, I'm glad you called that out because a lot of people miss that part of it, you know, the rest part. Your body does need to rebuild. It needs to reset. It needs to take in the nutrition you gave it and start to convert it into some good things. Yeah. And you touched on this a little bit, but I want to kind of come back to that. The inspiration between home court and then maybe your all's vision for it.

Yeah, absolutely. a quick, I'll try to keep it a quick story. So Original Strength Institute, last year we moved into a larger space. We went from 3,000 square feet to 15,000 square feet. There was some extra space. I'm gonna say extra, I think in hindsight, maybe it wasn't so extra, but alas, here we are. Home Court became to be. So one of the cool features about Home Court is that it's located inside Original Strength Institute, which has been a staple in downtown Fuqua for over 10 years.

Speaker 1 (19:01.26)
And then I also just said it, we're in downtown Fuquay. So we are a private indoor pickleball court that is located in downtown. And I don't know how familiar you are with Fuquay, Fuquay Verena, I'll give the whole name. There you go. We are growing rapidly. And so what we've done is we've created this welcoming, inviting space for people to come and play right in the heart of our town, which is really cool. And so.

We've always, my husband and I, Joe, have always talked about creating a space for people to come and just hang. And that is fostered by the community and environment that Danny and Tim have created at OSI as well. And so we're sort of just an extension of that. And we partner really closely together. One of the cool things about our space, aside from being indoor private, it's got this fantastic mural. It started this like thumbnail of an image with like two colors. And it turned into this really

wildly awesome vision. We had a local real estate agent slash artist, Rachel Cornett, do that for us. And it's the thing then you walk in, you're like, I want a picture with the mural or that's home court because of the mural.

That's awesome. I like that, the personal touches there. So let's talk tacos and fanny packs. They're not random quirks. They got a whole vibe going on. So how do you bring that energy to your brand?

it's just practical. Fanny packs, like if you're not, okay. Male, female, I do not care. If you want to be hands-free, fanny packs are where it's at. Whether you wear it around your hip, across your body, I do not care. It is functional, it is practical, right? We're talking about easy going. Tacos, little pockets of joy. Yes. I've never met a taco I didn't like. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:45.422)
You're kind of the same thing with fanny packs, right? I mean, going hands-free, obviously, but you, I mean, you get everything in one hand.

Kind of, yeah. And then you're not having to your purse or your wallet so you can, you know, hold something else like a pickleball paddle or something like that. Who knows? Although I do ask no food on the court. It gets kind of messy in there. Yeah. But we do have at least two. There's a third that's not quite walking distance, walking distance for me, but there's actually three Mexican restaurants downtown right outside of home court and OSI. So super easy for people to go and grab some food after they're done playing.

Okay, let's do a little bit of a Dink or Destroy or this or that. You gotta pick one, can't go middle of the road, can't pick both. All right? Okay. All right. I'm stressed now. I just started Not too intense. Not too intense. Okay. Court drills or movement prep? All right. Tacos or paddle demos? Tacos, always. knew that one. Private coaching or group clinics? Coaching. All right. Your favorite book or your favorite paddle?

Drills.

Speaker 1 (21:39.278)
private.

Speaker 1 (21:43.842)
I read a lot of books, so we're gonna go with Rad as my favorite paddle.

Okay, all right. Coaching forever or a lifetime of perfect footwork?

There's always opportunity to grow and if we stop being curious, then we're doing something wrong. So I'm going to say lifetime of coaching.

Yeah, I like it. One final thing I wanna make sure that people get from you as a takeaway, someone's listening, trying to live better, play better, apparent better. What's your one Coke Cat says message for them today?

start. Just start. There's no perfect time, right? For those of us that have kids, right, we're always like, we're gonna wait till the perfect time. There's no perfect time. Just get started. Even if it's messy, it's still a start.

Speaker 2 (22:22.124)
Yeah, yeah, and that's great for the people who say, well, Monday, I'm going to start Monday, or I'm going to start at the first of the month. Well, here we are at the first of the month, and we're just one day past Monday, so just start from Coach Katz says. Where can people find you? How do they get a hold of you? How can they reach out? Let's give all the socials.

Yeah, absolutely. So for Home Court Pickleball, that's going to be on Instagram. You can find us at Home Court NC for North Carolina. Our email is info at homecourtnc.com. And if you're interested in anything nutrition related, feel free to follow me at Coach Kat says, and you can catch me that way as well.

Awesome. Thank you so much, Kathleen, for being on the podcast today. We love it. And we know people are going to get tremendous value from this. So go find her on all the socials, get with her, and she will be the best help you can have. Thanks so much.

Thanks.

Speaker 2 (23:18.926)
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Dink It Destroy is that segment where we send something over the net, we dink it, or we destroy it. It's not for us, thumbs down. What you got, Paddle Princess?

So, something happened in my house last week that got me thinking about this. When I am annoyed or irritated, everyone in the house knows it because I will immediately start doing chores like cleaning dishes or something like that, but I will do them extra loud and extra exaggerated so that everyone knows that I am mad. And I was sitting there thinking, one, do other people do this or am I just really weird?

I wanted to know, like, do you guys do that or do you not? Are you for it or are against it?

I don't clean happy or mad. I know what you're saying. Like it's a thing that you can throw yourself into all the way while also sending a signal like I'm a porcupine, do not pet.

Speaker 4 (24:43.138)
Yes, like when I'm putting the dishes away, the cabinet will get slammed. Yeah. I am mad.

For sure. How else, other than perhaps words, can we tell our family that we're mad right now? When words fail, cabinets must be slammed. Dishwashers must be slammed shut. The front door must be opened and closed a bunch of times. The broom.

Putting the pots in there extra loud so that they clang They say anything, but I'm I'm mad

Yeah, the broom sweeps

We get the stiff broom.

Speaker 4 (25:15.33)
...doing chores just extra loud so that everybody knows that you're

Is it the adult version of like when you were a kid and you'd run in and just punched your pillow when you were pissed off?

You scream cuss words into it. I don't know. Wait till you got around the corner and put the middle finger up.

yeah, all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, we've all done it. Pass. So that's aggressive, but mine just becomes aggressive.

We do it,

Speaker 1 (25:36.152)
right

Yes.

Speaker 2 (25:39.896)
No

Like my dinks, somehow my dinks always become aggressive and they end up not dinks anymore. Yeah. I've Bruce Banner'd some chores around the house for sure. For sure.

the yard.

Speaker 4 (25:56.716)
or you dink, is this something like I

feel like, yeah, your asses need to know I'm mad. And the thing is, like, how did you not know? I think that's why it becomes aggressive chores, because it's like, I think you should have already known this. You should already know I'm mad because y'all the ones that made me mad. And now I'm slamming dishes because I'm mad that you didn't think I or know I was mad. That's why I do it.

or it's like doing the thing that you've asked somebody to do like five times and it's not done. So I do it extra loud, extra aggressive so that that person in the house knows that I know that they didn't do it and that I'm ticked.

Yeah, like shake out the towel 30 times before you fold it so you know what I'm doing over here

Fold these washcloths extra hard.

Speaker 3 (26:39.884)
Yeah, I'm a dink.

So for me, mean, don't, the passive aggressive, I like to sit and talk if we're gonna talk.

You're a flow. Like you just are like, I'm here. And sometimes that's agitated. Yes. But that's a whole other Dinkerdoc.

Maybe that's a technique I have. It's worked on the streets.

Maybe it is.

Speaker 3 (27:05.132)
to get kicked out of this house.

destroy for you. don't like

I don't mind it because, you know, it's weird because I put dirty clothes down and they come back clean and I don't know how they got there. yeah, it is a magical thing that happens in the house, the dishes too. But I mean, we've kind of outsourced that to the kids. So I mean, and your daughter, don't, it's DNA or something. She does a little passive aggressive slamming of things when she's mad.

She gets done. That's right.

Speaker 4 (27:20.462)
It's just magic.

Speaker 3 (27:34.83)
I think it just, grow into it. I think eventually as a mom, as a wife, you're just like, it's my time. Like you morph into it. You're like, morph into it. Like by the time you hit 30, you're like, I'm slamming dishes. I'm slamming cabinets.

For me, I find that it's also very productive because once everyone knows I'm pissed, stuff gets d-

Like I will walk into the kitchen.

room and they are up and they are moving and things are getting done and I'm like

Our kids are like that.

Speaker 3 (28:06.414)
But that's the problem. We have trained them. We have trained them to say, when I'm pissed, you better get to work instead of doing a better job. I'm being like, hey, let's talk about this before I get to that. So now it's kind of like Pavlov, like, oh, mom's mad. I better do something. But why does it have

Productive.

to get.

to that point. know. I don't know. I know the whole thing is like, you know, whatever it's like people like stop the trauma that your family, like your parents put on you, like don't raise your kids that way. Yeah, I'm not doing that. I, I pretty much do. I fall into that same boat. Respect.

I've tried. I've tried all the different ways of trying to get my son to clean his room, to take the trash out, my daughter to do the dishes, to get the floors cleaned. I have tried the gentle way. I have tried the yelling way. I have tried the taking away way. The only thing that works is when I get mad. And then it's like, well, mom's crazy. We better do it. She says, you made me crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:06.318)
I mean, I think that started back when my kids were like six where it was like I got that trash bag I'm like all your toys are out of hand Yes, like they yes as they got older they're like she's just keeping them in the garage, right? Our are pretty good now, but I think

Exactly! my gosh.

Speaker 2 (29:25.752)
For me, it's the, when the kids do it, they slam something, I'm like, listen, you did not pay for that. That's not yours. You can slam whatever you want in your house. You ain't slamming my cabinets.

I feel the same.

I think it's just an age thing too. Like, I think all kids at that age forget to do the trash and forget to do the stuff. And I don't think it's intentional. Just like, I think as moms, we do things that piss our kids off, but it's not like we're doing it to make them mad. We just... I know they don't like my faces, but whatever. I'm just saying that I don't think... Because if you notice, it's always a certain age group. Like those boys that are just like 10 to 13, you're just like, give

It's just the eye roll, the faces.

Speaker 2 (30:07.107)
Bon voyage.

Just get him out. Just get him out of your But like, now that my son's 16, like, I feel like he's like, oh, dude, I forgot to do the trash. I'm going to do it right now. You know, like, it's just different. But 10, 11, 12, it was like, are you kidding? Right. So it might just be an age thing or it might just be slam some more cabinets and they'll do it.

Yeah, let's get some trauma going for sure.

I'm a dink because I know I do it, so I'd be a hypocrite if I said destroy.

Why it's not up to us to put therapists out of business, right? You know, mean our kids need something to talk about later on Yeah, I'm a I'm a dink I'll go dink on this

Speaker 3 (30:38.158)
That's why I slam pickle balls. So I don't slam my cabinets.

I dealt with it for 20 something years.

I'm a dink as well. trauma. It's not that it's done intentionally, but once I just get to that bowling point, there's nothing that's going to stop it.

Is she bowling? It's going.

bowling point.

Speaker 3 (30:59.842)
Bowling point.

When the water's boiling, we put the crawfish in.

Yes. Okay, so yeah, I'm sure there's other moms out there listening. So we're all dinks. thank God somebody else is in my court.

We're all dinks. We're all dinks. I see you did it with the courts. I'm the courts. I like that. like that. I'm checking you out, girl. All right.

Speaker 3 (31:25.422)
News you can use.

Coming live from the big dink energy news desk. If I didn't do it, you all would say something. In March, Fred Hull lost consciousness and collapsed while playing at a private facility, pickleball facility in St. George, Utah. Go Utes. A player on an adjacent court called 911. He wasn't breathing when two fellow players jumped into action. They started CPR and utilized, listen to this, the on court.

It is true. That is true.

Speaker 2 (31:55.36)
Automated External Defibrillator or AED. Love that. Today, Fred is doing fine. He even returned to the pickleball court and plays regularly with the people who helped save his life just a few months ago. The least you could do, Fred, play with the people who your awesome, Fred. So that really stuck out to me, and you shared this with me, Steph, because as a safety and security expert, so to speak, in my world outside of pickleball, I love to see that they had an AED there.

Speaker 2 (32:21.774)
I always look for one, especially when there's sports going on and there's, you know, people of all walks of life and ages and shapes and sizes. That's one of the best things you can do. Now if you're going to get an AED, make sure it's within three minutes response time. That's a minute and half to get it and a minute and a half back to the patient is the recommended distance if you're one.

If you're a court owner, this is hugely important. Yeah. Don't skip on this, especially with the amount of kids, children, seasoned folk. Like it's just reasonable and necessary to assume that there's going to be an injury.

It's in the sand.

Speaker 2 (32:55.822)
So you have to have responsible preparation is what a court will want to know if something goes badly. Court court court of law court of law.

Such happy news. love it.

He even got a tattoo. Oh yeah. Of the 80. Yes, thank you.

Yeah.

My heart beats here or something Little readout. Well, good job Fred and good job playing with the people that saved your life least you could do

Speaker 4 (33:16.174)
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (33:22.227)
Way to go to that court and way to go to those people that were actual first responders.

Yes, the true first- You noticed the fire department didn't make it there.

Fonders are the people that are there. Yep.

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