Pickleball Noise Wars, Caffeinated Dinks & Neighborhood Drama | James w/ Side Out Coffee

Pickleball noise complaints? HOA drama? Some people just wake up looking for things to be mad about. We’re diving into the so-called “pickleball noise wars” and why some folks think a plastic ball is ruining their peace (spoiler: it’s not).

Then, we sit down with James from Side Out Coffee, the first-ever pickleball coffee brand, to talk about the intersection of caffeine, competition, and community. From World of Warcraft pro to pickleball entrepreneur, James shares his wild journey and what’s next for Side Out.

PLUS:
 🔥 Dink or Destroy – Are joint Facebook accounts a red flag?
🏓 Found, Learned, Heard – The $1.25 Dollar Tree pickleball set, pickleball as an endurance sport, and a new chaotic way to play.

🎧 Grab your paddle, sip some coffee, and let’s get dinking!

Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:01.154)
This is Big Dink Energy, the pickleball podcast that's half insight, half nonsense, and all entertainment. If you love pickleball, don't take yourself too seriously and think a little trash talk makes the game better. Welcome home. This is the place where life and pickleball intersect. We celebrate the chaos, call out the nonsense, and put the fun back in dysfunction. You're either in or you're out. And if you're still listening, you're in. So let's go. Big Dink Energy starts

Now, looks like you made it back for another episode of Big Dink Energy. We're glad you're here listening to us. Listen, I've got Stephanie here. I've got the paddle princess here with me. Now I've got to say something. I saw this come across the news and I do know how I feel about it. I want to get y'all's take on it. Something was bothering me. So apparently there's pickleball noise wars going on out there. hope too. HOAs.

about that.

major, I guess major or highfalutin, if you want to say communities out there saying that the pickleball noise is too loud.

So it's a plastic ball, not a jackhammer.

Speaker 2 (01:07.47)
Okay, okay, I gotcha.

This lady was saying that she lives like a hundred yards from the pickleball court and that the sound of the pickleball court or the pickleball is going from 8 a.m. to 8 30 p.m. is causing her all this mental distress and She claimed all of these crazy things. That's ridiculous. I feel that way,

People have lived near trains and airports, construction sites for years. Like, I think there's just some people.

I mean, those are our people, but I'm talking about the HOAs, the gated communities, the richie riches, if you will, those people are complaining because now, you know, a pickleball coming out as strong as it is, they're moving into different communities, they're turning old basketball courts into pickleball courts anywhere.

So it's the tennis players really that are going, right?

Speaker 1 (01:55.534)
It's shock.

Shots fired, shots fired.

I think there's just some people who wake up wanting to complain. Like, birds are too loud. The sun is too bright.

I read an article online that said that Nantucket was considering actually banning pickle

What I mean obvious okay, so that is Richie rich and that Nantucket Island out there that community these are people

Speaker 3 (02:16.492)
You know what rhymes with Nan? Tuck it.

No, tell us.

Bless them.

Right? There's something wrong with you.

I think that's no.

Speaker 2 (02:28.974)
Mystical. I thought we were naming rappers that aren't

It's just... it's stupid. Like, I don't even know why it's even a thing.

think it's a sport, come on now, there are more important things to complain about.

Basketball basketball sounds the squeaking of the shoe

You're worried. I mean, we're hitting a wiffle ball with a paddle. How bad is it? I know I'm trying. Listen, I'm just trying to get some cardio without having to run. That's what I'm trying to do. Same. Why are you out there, know, harshing my vibe with you talking, talking and complaining and calling the police. the police. think so. What's the solution? Do we play with softer balls? Who wants to play with softer balls?

Speaker 3 (03:03.662)
No, I think we just play the- Nobody wants softer No one's gonna pause. I say we just Blair frozen, let it go.

What about, I think we, let's, if we, how about we just lean into it more and we're, and we just make up sound effects of our own that are just a little bit louder or we, or we bring kids with us and make it louder than that. We bring a megaphone, we bring air horns.

We can bring a stereo and play let it go

Yeah, and then so then you'll be... You'll feel a lot better after we quiet that noise down. You'll be like, I wish they would just play pickleball. Let's get ready to rumble. I think that's what I would do. would just lean into it and make more noise just so they know what noise is.

Can I have a whole cheer squad? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:39.554)
Yeah.

Hey, Karen, how do you like that?

Speaker 3 (03:52.696)
They don't know. Yeah. They have no clue.

Just need something to complain about.

Yeah, okay, well, I just wanted to bring that up. I thought that was interesting when I saw that come across.

I think it's ridiculous.

It's time for Pickle Pal!

Speaker 2 (04:09.474)
All right, we come to this section of the podcast that I absolutely love. We're meeting the people and the things and the places that surround pickleball. And that's really what it's all about. It's about that community side of pickleball for us. And what better person to meet today than James with Side Out Coffee. Now listen, I have an absolute passion and love for two things. One is coffee, the other cigars. And I should probably throw my wife in there someplace as well. I'm not sure where she ranks it. It varies every single day.

but coffee is always in the top three for sure. So James from Side Out Coffee, thanks so much for being on the Big Dink Energy podcast.

Thanks for having me brother. Yeah, it's good to be here. This is my first podcast is being participating in like the pickleball industry and stuff and We're still pretty early our company, but it's going really well And I just really having a lot of fun with it know because it's just two things that I'm passionate about as well as coffee and pickleball and you know was already kind of living this lifestyle before starting this whole venture. I'm putting in ungodly hours, but it's pretty I'm having fun. I'm having fun with it though. You know, yeah

Yeah, absolutely. And that's really what it is for us too, is it's so incredibly fun. I have other facets of my life that I get involved with. But the Big Nink Energy podcast and Pickleball, it is fun and it makes it easy to sit down and easy to do. And especially when I'm talking to guys like you. A lot of people may not know about your background. James and I connected over the military as well. James served in the army. We're so incredibly thankful for your service there, my friend.

Same to you, man. Yeah, I guess it was about two years now. I sold my equity stake in my past company. I've been working in the games industry. So I was a pro World of Warcraft player for many years. I was streaming on Twitch and doing this content creator lifestyle. And I was building this company that I helped co-found called Rxp Media. So we were selling digital guides for World of Warcraft. I was just basically living. I was terminally online. I was really out of shape. And in some ways,

Speaker 1 (06:04.526)
unhappy in some ways happy, know, and I just, it was time for me to move on from it. So I sold my equity stake in the company and I joined a gym to try to like remember who I was before all that happened. Right. And started losing weight and I wanted to get back into tennis because I played tennis my whole life. was like, it's been really like the only sport I've ever been good at. So I go out to these tennis courts and they're pickleball courts.

and i was first like now what is this right in these californians at that at the up the californians man like what's the right sport that they're doing here and my mom of all people's i can i gotta give it a shot it's actually pretty fun like you know you gotta give it a shot so she buys me some like walmart paddle you know i go out there

Nice, wood panel for sure, we all start.

Yeah, and bro, I just fell in love with it. I mean, I think a lot of people, you know, there's some memes on TikTok where they just hit a couple balls. You're like, man, it's pretty fun. You know, it's it's it's something about just the tactile feel of the ball and how it sounds and the feeling as it's coming off the paddle. And it comes naturally to, know, if you like racquet sports. Right. So you kind of hit the ground running. But really, like what what sucked me in is the community. Right. I like feeling like I'm part of an up and coming community. I feel like the vibes are the most immaculate that they'll ever be. And for me, pickleball. Yeah.

Yeah, that's

Speaker 1 (07:13.358)
It gave me that vibe, know? So everyone I'm meeting out there on the court, it's like their moms and dads and they're successful and they're doing their things and everybody has kids. You I'm in my early thirties now and like, that's kind of like that new bracket of people you're interacting with, right? People who have homes and kids and all this. And I was really just enjoying it. Like just meeting other people that I looked up to and it all came together. Like we play a ton of pickleball and our gym is lifetime fitness. So like they have a childcare component of it. So you get about three hour childcare per day.

So that was the thing, you drop your kids off at daycare and you play three hours of pickleball. That's how you get some sanity back for a day when you have toddlers and stuff. So if you notice with pickleball, it kind of goes in waves. how it starts is a bunch of people, like a big wave starts playing pickleball the other.

and they start off at like two five, three and they start getting better and they start doing tournaments, like low level tournaments, local tournaments, and getting better and better, three five, four four five, and they almost graduate out of open play and they graduate out of just like day to day rec play once they get to about 4.5 level. And I saw that with my own friend group and I see that continuing to happen and just seeing new waves of people get into the game. But anyways, I fell in love with the game, started doing a lot of tournaments and traveling around and.

taking it a little more seriously. So I did a bunch of APP stuff, PPA, MLP, WPT. And I probably did that in like two dozen tournaments last year or something like that. And I realized while I was out there that there's not really an endemic coffee brand for pickleball yet. I mean, there's tons of energy drinks and stuff. So Monster owns Rain Energy and they're giving Moai like crazy. There's all types of that, but nothing really coffee related. And I'm a big...

you know, espresso guy, you know, I've always had like a brevel in my house pulling shots of that. I, when I'm, when I'm on the road, if you're like a coffee person, like you crave good coffee and like you really feel it for at least for me being away from my house. And so I'd have to like, try to come up with little portable espresso solutions to try to make coffee on the road. And it just kind of clicked like,

Speaker 1 (09:14.776)
hey, I think there's an opportunity to build something that's endemic to pickleball that's gonna resonate with this community. As I go to all these tournaments, it actually like, you start seeing the same people over and over again at these tournaments, and you start to like get an understanding that this is a lifestyle. Like people are qualifying for nationals each year, they're flying out to wherever it is, Indian Wells or whatever, and you're doing the APP track or the PPA track, more amateur focused, more pro focused, and it's a really fun.

Lifestyle I like it a lot and it's something I want to be able to like, you know Pass down to my kids and stuff when they come of age and get them into like junior PPA stuff and all that So, I don't know I want to it to me It's very satisfying to be able to serve my community that I'm also part of and and you know, most people drink coffee, right? So yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so that's kind of how it started I started doing some home roasting I bought a little drum roaster and having a ton of fun with it and then just develop some partnerships and you know pass the idea around my community of folks here in Northern California and just like anything it's like

a company, a startup, it starts as a giant block of stone and you just take your little chisel and you just chip away at this block of stone. Every day you just do a little bit, just a little bit of chiseling and then the statue is gonna reveal itself, you know, as it goes. And I like being able to develop these products and these services and stuff that bring a smile to people's face. We have an event catering part of the business where we have a mobile cafe. It's basically a horse trailer that I just converted by hand.

Yeah, that's absolutely-

Speaker 1 (10:39.852)
rolled my sleeves up and converted the whole thing into like a mobile cafe essentially. So we do like, we do bubble waffles and we do a full espresso menu. And, you know, we pull up to these pickleball tournaments and you know, our, flagship latte is called the golden pickle, which is essentially just like a honey latte. You pull a shot of espresso, whip some honey into it. just seeing people's, the smile on their face when they come up and they ask what the golden pickle is and they're taking pictures with our little cafe and they're tagging us and they're just like super stoked to see a

Pickleball like at its core, at its essence. Endemically Pickleball first, Pickleball community first brand, providing them something that they like enjoy, right? Which is just like coffee or lattes or whatever it might be. Yeah, that brings me just a lot of like satisfaction. So that's the two sides of our business. We have this event catering business and we're booking up really fast. We're partnering with a lot of the local clubs and gyms around here in NorCal and then...

The goal with that is to secure vendor contracts with some of the larger guys like APP, PPA, whatever, and be able to pop up at all the different tour stops. So essentially being like the Starbucks of pickleball, you go to one of these tournaments and you're able to actually get good coffee, specialty grade, small batch roasted coffee from your fellow pickleballers. I feel like that's a meaningful thing. The person that's making that for you is your people.

And so that's part of it. And then the other side is the e-commerce piece. So we're selling our beans on Amazon, on our site as well. And everything is roasted fresh to order, which is a thing that kind of separates us from some of the other guys out there that, you if you placed an order right now, even just for one box of coffee, it would go into our production queue and we would just roast that small batch of coffee. It would have a roasted by date and it would all come out in one flow and get shipped out to your house, as opposed to buying something off the shelf in a safe way or something that might've been roasted like a year ago, you know.

That's the awesome part of what you guys bring to it, is being unique to pickleball and really caring about the flavors that you produce and how you're roasting. mean, that's so critical to the community that surrounds pickleball. I love it. So let me ask you, what's one thing about running a coffee business you wish you knew before you started?

Speaker 1 (12:49.272)
God, there's so many things racing through my mind, man. There's so many things. Okay, so there's a certain percentage of people that are really bougie coffee drinkers and they love their coffee. They're drinking light roast. They like the floral notes, the citrus. They like the different complex flavors that come through and they're using state of the art espresso equipment when it comes to grinders, WDT tools, distribution tools, puck screens.

That's a very loud voice because they're very into coffee and they're, you people make content and they consume that content. But in reality, I didn't realize how small of a percentage of the, of the base that is. It's basically like a fraction of 1%. The vast majority of America, especially like middle America, you know, are not drinking espresso. They're drinking like percolator type coffee, K-cups, stuff like that. And they're drinking darker roasts, right? So dark roast is about 70%.

of your sales. didn't think that was going to be the case. then about 25 % or 20 % is going to be medium roast. And then like, 5 % is going to be your light roast.

Yeah, I can remember back to my army days, know, the coffee would come out to the if you were on a field exercise, you're out in a wartime environment, you got some coffee. You know, I think some of that stuff went through an actual diesel engine and then they brought it out and it was just hot enough. It's so you're just consuming it, right? You're just like, well, although I'm not worried about the floral notes and all that kind of stuff. But then I think as you drink more coffee and you get to sit down and enjoy it, then obviously your palate taste change. So I wonder, you know.

Maybe what you can do a little study on is as your Dupre score goes up, does your taste for coffee get more bougie?

Speaker 1 (14:36.856)
Yeah, that's funny. Maybe maybe I mean the general thing I feel it happens with liquor or wine or whatever like there's kind of a there's levels to it right there's like a learning curve to it and like you start out drinking, know, like, you know light beers like that. You start graduating up until like the more hopsy like IPA is and stuff. It's kind of the same thing with coffee. You kind of get into the game drinking that French roast like that dark roast bold flavor really like right traditionally that's what coffee supposed to taste like right and then you start. Yeah.

playing around with things and enjoying the taste of coffee more and you get lighter and lighter with it and you look for more taste and generally the darker the roast, the more it's gonna taste more uniform, like one taste kind of.

So let me ask you, if you could set up one of your mobile cafes anywhere in the world for a day, where would

take it? I think I would take it to the APP Fortress, I think they call it. It's some, it's I think it's the largest pickleball facility, maybe in the world. It's 40 courts. It's somewhere in Florida. I think it might be Fort Lauderdale or something. But this past weekend was APP Sacramento. I was was interviewing the CEO of it. They call him Ken seniors names Ken, Ken Herman, and he's been around forever. Like they're around even before PPA. And he was telling me about it that it's like this insane facility where it's just

massive 40-court facility and like just tons of stuff to do. Wow. So I'd love to see that. I'd love to go there one day and check it out.

Speaker 2 (15:58.892)
Let's see if we can get some breaking news here. What's next for Side Out Coffee? What can we see in the future that maybe you're not ready to launch to everybody, but just on a tiny podcast, it doesn't mean anything to anybody. You're open to saying it.

No, totally man. You're really good at this too. There is a lot of good news. So the cool thing is we're a coffee company that's doing, you know, pickleball coffee and it's kind of a weird thing. Probably in the next month or so you'll see it. But one of the like the highest quality partners you can possibly have in the space. Let me tease that a little bit that, you mentioned the ratings a minute ago and as people's ratings go up, know, if their coffee tastes improve well.

You're gonna be able to see that really clearly possibly soon. yeah. So and amongst other things too, okay, the pickleball community, I don't know if it's like this exactly where you live. assume it is. I feel like it's one of the densest concentrations of just like a decent, amazing human beings. Like people look out for each other, dude. Like it's not like normal society where I kind of feel like people are, you know, cutting each other off and like, you know, trying to scam each other and stuff like pickleball.

I love it. Yeah

Speaker 1 (17:10.733)
maybe it's racket sports in general, like it's so wholesome, man. People are looking out for each other. They want to support each other. They're bringing out the best in each other. I see, you know, they rally around you. When you start a business in the pickleball community, like everyone's sort of like, oh hell yeah, like if I just started a copy company, it had nothing to do with pickleball. I'd get, you know, like my mom and my dad and a few people like, you know, maybe excited to try it out. But because there's pickleball, because it's pickleball in there. And I think because people have such a passion for the sport that

people are just like rallying around it, you know what I mean? And that's so cool to see. So a lot of partnerships.

That's awesome. That's awesome. So you heard it here first. You the only other community that's like that, you bring that up. The only other community I've seen an experience like that, what you're saying is their motorcycle community. You know, it doesn't, if you're, if you're on the side of the road, broke down, you'll have 18 bikes stop. They don't know you from anything and they'll, either have the part for you. They have the tool that you need, or they're going to go get it and bring it back to you. The community as a whole is just like pickleball where they just rally around people.

I want you in, I want you on the court, I want you to dink in, I want to show you what it's all about, I want to expose this whole world to you. There's no gatekeeping in pickleball and I absolutely love it.

Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:23.404)
Okay, so you've got subscriptions, you've got energy mixes, right? And then you obviously the coffee. let's, let's make sure people know everything that they can get a side out.

Yeah, so our website is sideoutcoffee.com. All of our social medias are that, the same thing. Like our main one that we push on is Instagram, and we do a few reels per day and just, you know, we do live streams at night where we're just playing pickleball like you guys, you know, we're just living the same lifestyle. You probably, you're a pickleball player, but we're just over here in Northern California. If you order from our website, everything you order will be roasted fresh to order.

That's big time.

But yeah, we have instant coffee, we have K cups, have whole beans, we have ground beans. Our instant coffee is kind of interesting because it's not like the typical coffee crystal mixes that you get at the store. It's freeze dried espresso concentrate. So we take our own beans, grind it up, pull the shot of espresso, and then we freeze dry it. So like basically when you add hot water to it, it just like turns it back into espresso and you can have it as instant coffee. So it's a bit more of a premium instant coffee experience. Yeah, like an Americano, yeah.

Americano.

Speaker 1 (19:28.234)
And then we have these energy powders that you brought up as well. And the reason for that is essentially like, we want to provide different strokes with different folks. And actually the number one demographic playing pickleball now is Gen Z. So it's quickly turning into a young person sport. Somehow it's gone viral with the young kids. I don't really know how that happened, but they're all, you know, you go out to your local courts, you see it more and more with each day, right? Like big groups of young kids playing. You know, those younger kids are more into the energy drinks, they're more into like pre-workouts and things like that.

and they don't really, aren't really brewing their own coffee and stuff. They go to Starbucks and buy something. So we have that for those people. And then also, even for older people too, these are really small little compact tubs of energy powder. You can throw them in your pickleball bag. And if you're at a tournament or something, or if you're fatiguing out and you need another little burst of energy, you can just mix it up just like any other pre-workout. And it's a pretty clean mix. It's 200 milligrams of clean all-natural caffeine from green tea.

We got some amino acids in there to help you and stuff like that. And then also, if you're a tournament organizer, if you're a tournament director and we're somewhat near you, like in California or select parts of Arizona, reach out because we might be able to cater your event. We might be able to bring hot coffee, a full espresso menu and iced coffee too, and these bubble waffles available in different flavors. So that's been a bigger part of the business than I even thought it was going to be, man. Like they're essentially these little honeycomb shaped waffles and they're

They're soft, airy, but crispy at the same time. So we offer them in a variety of flavors, matcha, ube, chocolate chip, plain, cinnamon, and then a bunch of toppings and stuff like Nutella, condensed milk, things like that. So we bring that courtside to you in our little mobile cafe, and that's like the event catering side of our business as well.

Man, so much going on at Side Out, that's awesome. All right, so I gotta ask, you guys are pulling up, trailer's open, we're ready to start brewing some coffee and handing it out. What's the soundtrack that's playing in the background? What's the song?

Speaker 1 (21:22.018)
Yeah, it depends on the vibe. So if it's a morning event, you go a little bit more, I like some country music playing or maybe even some like jazz or classical type of music, because the vibe is a little bit, you know, it's not that super high energy vibe quite yet. But right, we do Friday night lights once a month over at Johnson Ranch at the Spare Time Club, which is a huge nighttime event where it's a younger demographic. People are coming out and they're looking for that a little bit of nightlife and energy. So with that, we'll start playing, you know,

some hip hop, some pop, a little more high energy, high tempo. We love it all, man.

So everybody please, please, please, please go find my friends at SideOutCoffee. And you said SideOutCoffee.com is where everybody goes and connects and they get on the Instas and all that kind of stuff. You're gonna love what they bring to you. Get into the subscription service with them too. Get that just dropped right to your house. That way you're not struggling for coffee at your house. James, so, so thankful for you. mean, big guy in the industry. You're head of the company. Thanks for taking time with us today.

Thanks so much.

Speaker 2 (22:28.206)
This is the segment where we talk about something that we want to adopt something we want to say yes This is a good thing or something we want to throw out or get rid of or just say no thumbs down We want to destroy it so dink or destroy Steph. You said you had something I

So I would like to bring up joint email and then also joint Facebook accounts between spouses.

okay, okay. So I see a Facebook page and it's like John and Mary Smith. And it's them and a loving embrace and their profile picture. That's what you're talking about.

Yeah, I feel like nothing says this relationship has been through some stuff.

Right? Yeah. When I, I'll tell you, my first thought is who cheated? Yeah. When I see it, I'm like, okay, which one of you cheated? Yeah. Which one of you hooked up with one of your high school sweethearts? They found them on Facebook. Right. You went to your old high school page and logged in and you saw, Susie there and you remember, you know, that night under the bleachers. I mean, I don't know how it goes. I'm just spit balling.

Speaker 4 (23:33.176)
To me, I have one of three takes. Either somebody cheated, the man's a complete narcissist and has to control every single thing that she's doing. Or three, I have seen this in much more elderly couples. So like my dad has several friends who they have a joint Facebook account and they're in like their seventies. And I think mainly it's just because one, they probably don't realize how to use it and.

I didn't think about that

Speaker 3 (24:00.824)
So they're it.

Yeah, so my dad has one friend and he's always on there.

I'm sorry your dad has one friend.

There's one friend who has a joint Facebook account, him and his wife have a joint Facebook account and anytime she comments on something, she'll be like, you know, this was a great picture. Love, Martha. And then he'll say,

I mean, I guess that's kind of helpful, but it's like, am I talking to John? Am I talking to Lisa? Am I taking you to dinner? Whose birthday is it? You don't know who to say happy birthday to. Is it John? Or is it, I don't know. I think it's weird. feel like, is it John and Lisa or is it just Lisa low-key spying on John?

Speaker 2 (24:42.574)
And it is really, you know, I get that side of it. I didn't think about it from the older, more seasoned generation. I didn't think about it from that perspective. That makes a lot of sense. From that perspective, can probably accept people who should not be buying unripened bananas that age.

Okay, take boomers off the tape.

Speaker 3 (25:01.194)
Or like who have a lot of, you know, expired coal's cash or something. Good Lord. I think it's just...

Is Kmart still up?

Hey, I love Kmart.

I think it's just, it's free. So there's no reason to like, you know, we have to do this together and it'll save 20 bucks a month. You know, I mean, I get that if you want to share your Netflix, you know, but it's like, it's not some sacred digital. You don't need to bundle it, you know, you know, I just feel like what happened. Who is in internet jail?

I gotta bundle my social media.

Speaker 2 (25:34.188)
Yeah, and it's, so it is, right, it's, and the picture, correctly if I'm wrong, but the ones I see, it's always them and the loving embrace, their hips are together, they're holding each other, and they're, for some reason, they're always on sand and ankle-deep water. I don't...

And and and it's like they probably have their dog and it's like and Lucy, you know, it's like

They have to prove something to everybody on the internet.

I mean, obviously no offense to you all out there listening. you guys. Someone you know for sure though. Not you, John and Tammy.

I don't really see it like on Instagram. I mean, maybe they do and we don't know their handle, but I feel like it's just email and Facebook. And I think email.

Speaker 2 (26:13.964)
That's the weirdest. No, email's gotta be...

It's okay, my husband and I have a joint email account. Oh my. my. We do. It's his name. Battle Princess My name and then the year that we met. course it But on that is all of our household stuff. So that goes like all of our mortgage information, all of our car information, our car and. It's bills. But that way it just goes to all at one place so we know exactly where to look if we have a question on something.

It's free to forward.

Speaker 4 (26:45.55)
Bill

Speaker 4 (26:49.171)
All of our healthcare records go under that email address.

Take that off the table. Boomers off the table, bills off the table. This is an email like you're responding to friends, you're getting dinner invites, you know, you're... I didn't invite you, John. Steve. I invited Mary and now you're replying and I'm just a little pissed. I don't know who I'm talking to. Yeah. Okay. I don't like it.

I think in that aspect it's weird.

Destroy from me.

all right. What do got, paddle princess?

Speaker 4 (27:19.916)
I mean, seeing as I have one.

Yeah, but not in the way we're talking about.

And the aspect that you're bringing it up, I would say it's absolutely a destroy because it's also one of those things where it's like who cheated and or who's a narcissist. So in there, you obviously see that there's some kind of relationship problems when you're using it socially. So I would say destroy on that factor.

other thing is like, do you just keep marking it unread? Like, Guy, if we had one together, like, I read it, so I'm like, unread. Now you read it, and you're like, but I don't know if she read it unread. And it's like, how many times do you do that before you're like, did you get the dinner invite?

and then you screenshot it and send it to somebody and then they're like.

Speaker 3 (27:55.678)
I already said. AOL, prodigy, I don't care what you use, but don't be together.

Yeah, and and yeah, I don't really want to make sure hot meal Here's the thing here's the thing when I'm getting my limewire updates, I don't know It's a destroy for me. I'm all the way out on that You know that I if you asked me to do one now I would not do it with you No matter what happened in our life, and I'm definitely not getting an ankle deep water at the beach to take a picture Definitely a destroy for me

It will still exist. This hot meal still exists.

Speaker 3 (28:24.814)
Alright, three destroys.

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Boo boo.

Speaker 2 (29:06.882)
found her.

and

No

Woo!

This is where we kind of clue you into something from our week or the past couple of days, something that we found, something that we learned and something that we heard, a little bit of life that we want to give back to you that maybe you didn't find, learned or heard out there. So Stephanie, you said you found something that you found.

Speaker 3 (29:27.022)
I'm so excited about this one. I found a pickleball set at Dollar Tree. Nice. Yeah, so it's one paddle and one ball. It's $1.25. they have a section of the five, and the $5, even a better one, does not come with dinkin' balls. But I did get one, and on our socials, will, we're gonna play.

But it's not a dollar.

Speaker 3 (29:52.288)
We're to see how well it works. We're going to test it out. I will tell you, we'll put a picture out, but they don't look all that great. what a low barrier. anybody just grab some of these and just go and try and then you'll like it.

It is itself.

Speaker 2 (30:08.216)
Yeah, pickleball's already a lower barrier, so let's lower it even further.

Now you can get the kids playing with it because you know they used to have the plastic red bats and balls that they keep in the net it comes like that and You know grab it your kids can play out in the front yard on the you know

Don't worry about them losing an expensive paddle or breaking it.

You know, then they get like, I like this, just like when the kids get the baseball and all that stuff and they play and then they end up liking it. So it's, I think it's great to, I'm sure it's made for children cause it comes in that bag, like the beach, you know, beach tools. So I think it's, I think it's great. I'm excited that it's coming out like that.

it's interesting how it's gone from, you can go from very elite to very, very basic. It leaves room for everybody.

Speaker 3 (30:54.06)
Yeah, and then you like it you're like, I actually like this. Now I'm going to go get a better paddle and I'm going to get dinkin' balls and you know, I'm going upgrade my life of pickleball. Upgrade your life. So that's what I found.

Yeah, get an upgrade your life. Do it. I like it because now I'm thinking about sponsorships. Can I get a Dollar Tree sponsorship to play with their their stuff on the court? Listen, Dollar Tree, if you're listening, I'm to go all green for you. I'm all the way in. You want to sponsor me? I'm to put the tree on everything. I'm going to dinking trees over here. Dollar Tree, you want to reach out and sponsor me? I'm all about it. But yeah, I can't wait to play with those. Those are going to be awesome. Yeah.

it.

Speaker 3 (31:29.774)
Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

Okay, for me, I've got to learn this week. The one thing I learned, and it was a revelation to me, I didn't know this much about it, but the average pickleball game burns the same amount of calories as a three mile run.

I can believe it because I wear my Apple watch and I'm like, holy cow, the StairMaster didn't do that much for me. Way more. Way more.

on our

I can believe that. And I also read it the other day as well. And the last time that we played and I looked at my Apple Watch at the end and I was like, I, the last time I did an hour long workout where I worked my butt off, I did not burn this many calories.

Speaker 2 (32:08.972)
Mostly from chasing the balls around the court though, right? The distance we have to travel on some of these courts to get to the balls. But here's the thing for me, and I'm going to start putting this on all my personal socials, not our joint social, is I'm an endurance athlete now. Obviously I'm a high, high caliber athlete now, but I'm just doing three mile runs every time I'm out there.

Is there a pickleball high? Like a runner's high?

I I don't know. Yeah, I mean, so listen, here's the thing. If you see me out there playing pickleball, I'm training for that pickleball marathon, 26.2, baby. I'm coming all the way. I mean, there's a ton of matches and dinking you gotta do for 26 miles, but I'm committed to it. I'm committed to it. And I can only imagine with the Dollar Tree paddles, sky's the limit. I'm an endurance athlete now. Again, anybody that wants to sponsor me, I'm an endurance athlete. Just bring it on. Yeah, it was interesting.

even better.

Speaker 3 (32:58.176)
Nice learned, I like that. All right, paddle princess.

paddle princess bringing up the rear as they say was something that she heard.

Alright, so what I heard about was a game of pickleball that is called Around the World Pickleball. And it's the fastest rotating game ever. So basically players will form a giant circle around the court and rotate after every shot. If you miss, you're out. The last two standing play 1v1 showdown. It's really good for large groups and it keeps everyone moving and laughing so that nobody's sitting on the sidelines.

Yeah. So that's really similar, I think to queen of the court, what they do in volleyball. So since my daughter plays volleyball, they do that and they have like three people out there and then they hit the ball and hit the ball. if it, that side doesn't get the ball, then they like run and switch and run and switch. it's, it's a nice fast pace. That sounds really fun.

I've never heard of that.

Speaker 4 (33:52.238)
That's fun, but we'd have to have a, I think we would have to have a. We need to meet some more people. Anybody want to come join us and try this around the world?

enough friends

Speaker 3 (34:00.156)
with us three.

Switch, Yeah, I mean, that would be a little bit difficult initially, but I know we're going to make friends. That's what we're all about.

Your kids would get annoyed if we had them all running around the court the whole time.

But not, being in the corporate world for a little bit that I was, now I'm thinking about team building events. Yeah. you guys could use it at your business. I'm thinking about, for those that don't know, I used to work for Walmart Logistics, the warehouse side, not the blue smocks up front. And so we would have major offsite team events and we'd have 30, 40 managers out there. So now, now I've got a way to introduce my endurance sport.

Yeah, that's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (34:40.598)
to people who are.

Amp up your endurance. Imagine how much more calories you're going to burn if you're constantly running around the pickleball. Yes, around the world pickleball.

Was it called Around the World?

so fun. I love it. I'm gonna have to go.

Fine friends.

Speaker 4 (34:54.392)
I know, when you go find some people to join us to try this out.

super cool. I love it.

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